TL;DR – Summary
| Activity | God Rolls | Tier Ranks |
|---|---|---|
![]() | Perk 1: Attrition Orbs (also good: Demolitionist) Perk 2: Master of Arms (also good: Crystalline Corpsebloom) | ![]() |
![]() | Perk 1: Delicate Tuning (also good: Dynamic Sway Reduction) Perk 2: Target Lock (also good: Tap the Trigger) | ![]() |
Released with the Renegades DLC, M-17 “Fast Talker” is a
Stasis Balanced Heat Weapon that can be farmed by participating in Renegades Destination activities. The only SMG of its kind, it features the new ‘Balanced Heat Weapon’ type and packs plenty of power to back it up. This guide covers its place in the current Meta, top rolls for PvE and PvP, and how to farm it.
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How good is the M-17 “Fast Talker”
M-17 “Fast Talker“ is an exciting new addition to the sandbox. The Balanced Heat Weapon Archetype makes it an interesting prospect and definitely one of the best 900 RPM Submachine Guns in Destiny 2 for both PvE and PvP.
Its PvE variations can lean into its Stasis element for creating Crystals to solidify a Stasis-focused build or focus on Orb generation and damage bonuses. The PvP version can challenge some of the best weapons of a similar type, which makes it a great all-rounder for any game mode you wish to take M-17 “Fast Talker“ into, and a major weapon to look out for while you traverse the Lawless Frontier. M-17 “Fast Talker“ is A-Tier for PvE and A-Tier for PvP.
Best alternatives:
![]() | MIDA Mini-Tool | Submachine Gun | Seasonal Engram | Ash & Iron | ||
![]() | Multimach CCX | Submachine Gun | Iron Banner | Monument of Triumph | ||
![]() | The Recluse | Submachine Gun | Onslaught Activity | Monument of Triumph |
M-17 “Fast Talker” Perks and God Rolls
The M-17 “Fast Talker“ is a Stasis Submachine Gun and can roll with the following perks:
- Perk 1: Attrition Orbs, Dynamic Sway Reduction, Demolitionist, Delicate Tuning, Stats for All, Cooling Baubles, Killing Wind.
- Perk 2: Sword Logic, Crystalline Corpsebloom, Kill Clip, Target Lock, Tap the Trigger, Master of Arms, Thermal Atomization.
- Origin Trait: Air-Cooled Core.
M-17 “Fast Talker” PvE god rolls
| PvE Roll: All-Around | |
|---|---|
| Barrel | Fluted Barrel |
| Magazine | Light Heatsink |
| Perk 1 | Attrition Orbs (also good: Demolitionist) |
| Perk 2 | Master of Arms (also good: Crystalline Corpsebloom) |
| Masterwork | Cooling Efficiency or Handling |
The M-17 “Fast Talker“ is a great addition to 900 RPM Submachine Guns, and this PvE god roll carries plenty to enjoy.
Start with Fluted Barrel and Lightsink to give a much-needed boost to Handling, helping the weapon feel much smoother when readying up. Paired with the Masterwork this can reach 100 Handling, which is a nice bonus.
The main perk set is a combination of Attrition Orbs and Master of Arms. Attrition Orbs has flown up the ranks to become a top-tier perk in recent times, with sustained damage creating an Orb of Power. The fast-firing M-17 “Fast Talker“ will have no problem taking advantage of this perk. This can be essential to enhancing builds and damage increases via armor charges. Master of Arms then finishes this weapon off for added damage upon defeating targets, reaching a maximum of 25% when at 2 stacks.
M-17 “Fast Talker” PvP god rolls
| PvP Roll: All-Around | |
|---|---|
| Barrel | Hammer-Forged Rifling |
| Magazine | Projection Fuse |
| Perk 1 | Delicate Tuning (also good: Dynamic Sway Reduction) |
| Perk 2 | Target Lock (also good: Tap the Trigger) |
| Masterwork | Range |
M-17 “Fast Talker“ joins great company when it comes to PvP for weapons in this archetype, and this god roll can definitely compete with some of the old reliables, such as the Multimach CCX.
Firstly, we look to give M-17 “Fast Talker“ as much Range as possible, so pair up Hammer-Forged Rifling with Projection Fuse for a big +20 with a further +10 by adding in the Range Masterwork. This ensures a highly accurate weapon at distance, which is further enhanced by the first main perk, Delicate Tuning. This new perk adds boosts to Range, Handling, and Accuracy, which are all essential to getting the edge in a gunfight.
Finish off with Target Lock, which rewards an accurate hand with an increased damage bonus as long as shots remain on target. Doing so gives the wielder a huge advantage going into any Crucible arena.
How to get the M-17 “Fast Talker”
M-17 “Fast Talker“ is a possible reward from completing the Renegades campaign missions and adjoining activities such as Bounty Hunts, Sabotage, and Smuggle runs. The weapon becomes available for focusing after making further progress through the Renegades DLC. We cover all Renegades Destination Weapons here.
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