Mindbender’s Ambition: God Rolls and How to get it

by | Jan 19, 2023

The Mindbender’s Ambition is a Solar Aggressive frame Shogun from the Forsaken era. It used to completely dominate the PvP meta until it was sunset last year. And now, more than a year later, the Mindbender’s Ambition has finally returned to us as a Nightfall-exclusive weapon.

In this guide, we cover where to find the weapon, how to farm it, and what are the best rolls for PvE and PvP.

ArtWeaponArchetypeRarityAmmoElementRequirementsIn loot pool?Ammo?Element?TierExcelsSourceCraftable?RequiresReleasedSlotCan be Crafted?Best of?Top Perk?
Mindbender's Ambition artMindbender's AmbitionAggressiveLegendarySpecialSolarFree-to-PlayYesSpecial ammo Destiny 2 SpecialSolar Solar


-Nightfall: The OrdealsError icon V2Free to Play Destiny 2 icon
Season 18EnergyNoIncandescent

How to get the Mindbender’s Ambition in 2023

The Mindbender’s Ambition was reintroduced into the loot pool in Season 18 as a Nightfall-exclusive weapon. This means it can only drop from Nightfall completions and only during the weeks it’s on rotation.

Nightfall Weapon rotation for 2023

There are 14 Nightfall-specific weapons in total, and as of Season of Plunder (S18), only 6 out of the 14 total weapons are currently on rotation, with only one dropping each week. This means you can only farm the Mindbender’s Ambition once every six weeks!

Nightfall weapon rotation this season

ArtWeaponTypeElementAmmoRotationWeek #
Warden's Law artWarden's LawHand CannonKinetic symbol Destiny 2 KineticPrimary ammo Destiny 2 Primary28 November 2023Week 1
Loaded Question art Destiny 2Loaded QuestionFusion RifleArc ArcSpecial ammo Destiny 2 Special5 December 2023Week 2
12 December 2023Week 3
19 December 2023Week 4
26 December 2023Week 5
2 January 2024Week 6
9 January 2024Week 7
16 January 2024Week 8
23 January 2024Week 9
30 January 2024Week 10
6 February 2024Week 11
13 February 2024Week 12
20 February 2024Week 13
27 February 2024Week 14
5 March 2024Week 15
12 March 2024Week 16
19 March 2024Week 17
26 March 2024Week 18
2 April 2024Week 19
9 April 2024Week 20
16 April 2024Week 21
23 April 2024Week 22
30 April 2024Week 23
7 May 2024Week 24
14 May 2024Week 25
21 May 2024Week 26
28 May 2024Week 27

This guide will always highlight the Nightfall weapons this week, as well as the schedule for the coming weeks.

Nightfall weapons

How good is the Mindbender’s Ambition today

The Mindbender’s Ambition was every shotgun-lover go-to back in Year 2 until it was sunset with the launch of the Beyond Light expansion. With its return, it’s missing all of the best shotgun perks out there, including Opening Shot, Quickdraw, and Slideshot.

The lack of these perks makes it quite hard to recommend the Mindbender’s Ambition when shotguns such as Found Verdict and Wastelander M5 exist as alternatives. For those reasons, we consider this a B-Tier weapon:

  • B Tier – Average: A decent choice that can be lethal in the hands of a skilled player.

Best alternatives:

ArtWeaponArchetypeRarityAmmoElementRequirementsIn loot pool?Ammo?Element?TierExcelsSourceCraftable?RequiresReleasedSlotCan be Crafted?Best of?Top Perk?
Found Verdict artFound VerdictAggressiveLegendarySpecialArcFree-to-PlayYesSpecial ammo Destiny 2 SpecialArc Arc


PvPVault of Glass RaidError icon V2Free to Play Destiny 2 icon
Season 14EnergyNoTop-tier
Wastelander M5 artWastelander M5LightweightLegendarySpecialKineticFree-to-PlayYesSpecial ammo Destiny 2 SpecialKinetic symbol Destiny 2 Kinetic


PvE + PvPDares of EternityCheckmark icon V3Free to Play Destiny 2 icon
30th Anniversary eventKineticCraftableTop-tier

Best Mindbender’s Ambition Rolls for PvE and PvP

Once you’ve identified the right week to farm, you’ll want to run as many Nightfalls (and at the higher difficulty possible) to increase your chances of finding a god roll. Among the several strong possible rolls out there, these are our favorites, the combinations we consider god rolls.

Mindbender's Ambition roll

A Mindbender’s Ambition roll, Destiny 2

Mindbender’s Ambition PvP god roll

In terms of PvP rolls, you should go for high Range and high Handling. Therefore, Barrels such as Smallbore, Corkscrew Rifling, and Barrel Shroud can all be solid picks. For the Magazine, Accurized Rounds is the best option, however, Assault Mag is also a solid choice. For the first perk, you should go for Threat Detector, and for the second perk, you should aim for Fragile Focus. Snapshot Sights and Well-Rounded are decent picks as well.

  • Barrel: Smallbore, Corkscrew Rifling, or Barrel Shroud
  • Magazine: Accurized Rounds
  • Perk 1: Threat Detector
  • Perk 2: Fragile Focus

Mindbender’s Ambition PvE god roll

For PvE, your Barrel and Magazine won’t matter as much, however, Barrel Shroud and Assault Mag are the best available options. For the perks, you should go for Lead from Gold or Auto-Loading Holster on the first slot, and One-Two Punch or Incandescent for the second slot.

  • Barrel: Barrel Shroud
  • Magazine: Assault Mag
  • Perk 1: Lead from Gold or Auto-Loading Holster
  • Perk 2: One-Two Punch or Incandescent

Mindbender’s Ambition Adept

If you’re courageous enough to tackle Nightfalls on Grandmaster difficulty, you could earn an Adept version of the Mindbender’s Ambition. On top of serving as bragging rights, Adept variants of weapons have more perks per column, give even more stats when Masterworked, and can accept unique Adept mods.

Be aware that Grandmaster Nightfalls are only available during the second half of the season.

About The Author

Ric Molina
Ric Molina
I've been covering gaming since 2012, and some of my work has been featured by large brands, including MSN.com, Forbes, Rock Paper Shotgun, and more. I've been obsessed with Destiny 2 (and now Diablo 4) for years now, and I hope to provide new and returning players with the guides and resources I wish I had when I first started.
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