The Mindbender’s Ambition is a Solar Aggressive frame Shogun from the Forsaken era. It used to completely dominate the PvP meta until it was sunset last year. And now, more than a year later, the Mindbender’s Ambition has finally returned to us as a Nightfall-exclusive weapon.
In this guide, we cover where to find the weapon, how to farm it, and what are the best rolls for PvE and PvP.
Art | Weapon | Archetype | Rarity | Ammo | Element | Requirements | In loot pool? | Ammo? | Element? | Tier | Excels | Source | Craftable? | Requires | Released | Slot | Can be Crafted? | Best of? | Top Perk? |
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![]() | Mindbender's Ambition | Aggressive | Legendary | Special | Solar | Free-to-Play | Yes | ![]() | ![]() | Average ❘ B | - | Nightfall: The Ordeals | ![]() | ![]() Free-to-Play | Season 18 | Energy | No | Incandescent |
How to get the Mindbender’s Ambition in 2023
The Mindbender’s Ambition was reintroduced into the loot pool in Season 18 as a Nightfall-exclusive weapon. This means it can only drop from Nightfall completions and only during the weeks it’s on rotation.
Nightfall Weapon rotation for 2023
There are 14 Nightfall-specific weapons in total, and as of Season of Plunder (S18), only 6 out of the 14 total weapons are currently on rotation, with only one dropping each week. This means you can only farm the Mindbender’s Ambition once every six weeks!
Nightfall weapon rotation this season
Art | Weapon | Type | Element | Ammo | Rotation | Week # |
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![]() | Warden's Law | Hand Cannon | ![]() | ![]() | 28 November 2023 | Week 1 |
![]() | Loaded Question | Fusion Rifle | ![]() | ![]() | 5 December 2023 | Week 2 |
12 December 2023 | Week 3 | |||||
19 December 2023 | Week 4 | |||||
26 December 2023 | Week 5 | |||||
2 January 2024 | Week 6 | |||||
9 January 2024 | Week 7 | |||||
16 January 2024 | Week 8 | |||||
23 January 2024 | Week 9 | |||||
30 January 2024 | Week 10 | |||||
6 February 2024 | Week 11 | |||||
13 February 2024 | Week 12 | |||||
20 February 2024 | Week 13 | |||||
27 February 2024 | Week 14 | |||||
5 March 2024 | Week 15 | |||||
12 March 2024 | Week 16 | |||||
19 March 2024 | Week 17 | |||||
26 March 2024 | Week 18 | |||||
2 April 2024 | Week 19 | |||||
9 April 2024 | Week 20 | |||||
16 April 2024 | Week 21 | |||||
23 April 2024 | Week 22 | |||||
30 April 2024 | Week 23 | |||||
7 May 2024 | Week 24 | |||||
14 May 2024 | Week 25 | |||||
21 May 2024 | Week 26 | |||||
28 May 2024 | Week 27 |
This guide will always highlight the Nightfall weapons this week, as well as the schedule for the coming weeks.
How good is the Mindbender’s Ambition today
The Mindbender’s Ambition was every shotgun-lover go-to back in Year 2 until it was sunset with the launch of the Beyond Light expansion. With its return, it’s missing all of the best shotgun perks out there, including Opening Shot, Quickdraw, and Slideshot.
The lack of these perks makes it quite hard to recommend the Mindbender’s Ambition when shotguns such as Found Verdict and Wastelander M5 exist as alternatives. For those reasons, we consider this a B-Tier weapon:
- B Tier – Average: A decent choice that can be lethal in the hands of a skilled player.
Best alternatives:
Art | Weapon | Archetype | Rarity | Ammo | Element | Requirements | In loot pool? | Ammo? | Element? | Tier | Excels | Source | Craftable? | Requires | Released | Slot | Can be Crafted? | Best of? | Top Perk? |
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![]() | Found Verdict | Aggressive | Legendary | Special | Arc | Free-to-Play | Yes | ![]() | ![]() | Best ❘ S | PvP | Vault of Glass Raid | ![]() | ![]() Free-to-Play | Season 14 | Energy | No | Top-tier | |
![]() | Wastelander M5 | Lightweight | Legendary | Special | Kinetic | Free-to-Play | Yes | ![]() | ![]() | Strong ❘ A | PvE + PvP | Dares of Eternity | ![]() | ![]() Free-to-Play | 30th Anniversary event | Kinetic | Craftable | Top-tier |
Best Mindbender’s Ambition Rolls for PvE and PvP
Once you’ve identified the right week to farm, you’ll want to run as many Nightfalls (and at the higher difficulty possible) to increase your chances of finding a god roll. Among the several strong possible rolls out there, these are our favorites, the combinations we consider god rolls.

A Mindbender’s Ambition roll, Destiny 2
Mindbender’s Ambition PvP god roll
In terms of PvP rolls, you should go for high Range and high Handling. Therefore, Barrels such as Smallbore, Corkscrew Rifling, and Barrel Shroud can all be solid picks. For the Magazine, Accurized Rounds is the best option, however, Assault Mag is also a solid choice. For the first perk, you should go for Threat Detector, and for the second perk, you should aim for Fragile Focus. Snapshot Sights and Well-Rounded are decent picks as well.
- Barrel: Smallbore, Corkscrew Rifling, or Barrel Shroud
- Magazine: Accurized Rounds
- Perk 1: Threat Detector
- Perk 2: Fragile Focus
Mindbender’s Ambition PvE god roll
For PvE, your Barrel and Magazine won’t matter as much, however, Barrel Shroud and Assault Mag are the best available options. For the perks, you should go for Lead from Gold or Auto-Loading Holster on the first slot, and One-Two Punch or Incandescent for the second slot.
- Barrel: Barrel Shroud
- Magazine: Assault Mag
- Perk 1: Lead from Gold or Auto-Loading Holster
- Perk 2: One-Two Punch or Incandescent
Mindbender’s Ambition Adept
If you’re courageous enough to tackle Nightfalls on Grandmaster difficulty, you could earn an Adept version of the Mindbender’s Ambition. On top of serving as bragging rights, Adept variants of weapons have more perks per column, give even more stats when Masterworked, and can accept unique Adept mods.
Be aware that Grandmaster Nightfalls are only available during the second half of the season.
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